July 07, 2005

Exactly. The British aint taking that lying down and if they could stand up to the near destruction of London in WWII (Great pics here) of WWII they can handle a handful of tiny bombs. It's speculated that one of the people involved were actually released from Gitmo! Of course, at this time that's no more than internet rumour - so hopefully official confirmation/denial will come through the right channels.

Posted by: tincanman on July 7, 2005 11:27 PM

I grieve for the people killed and injured today, but to say that a country that has given up it's right to bear arms and jails it's citizens for protecting their own homes is posesed with resolve and balls is pushing it a bit. Remember that Chamberlin as well as Churchill (American Mom) was a product of the fair Isle as well. The first 5 UK citizens killed in Afghanistan were fighting for the Taliban.

Posted by: dbltap on July 7, 2005 11:40 PM

let's not forget the complete ineptitude of the attackers. Their timing missed rush hour. This must be the act of the Al Queda: Retard division. 2 bombs didn't even go off.

My money is on the brits for this one. I have a feeling that a few SAS agents have already rounded up a few people, with more to come.

Now that the smoke has settled and we have a clear view of the scene, the screams become voices, and the world snaps into focus for a precious few seconds.

When Bush said "You are with us or with the terrorists", it was not as much of a challenge or grandstanding, as a declaration of truth. If you are not supporting the terrorists, we will support you. If you are not supporting the terrorists, you will be a target. These are not OUR rules. These are the rules of the terrorists.

Drop by to read the rest. I don't want to hog yer bandwidth.

Posted by: Yogimus on July 8, 2005 12:13 AM

Well said Rob. Put a bounty on them and let some real Americans get in a bit of target practice and make enough to pay for the Ammo. It won't happen, our appeasers will lower the wire at each border and welcome them with open arms while Ted pontificates and George makes a deal with Vincente. .

Posted by: Jack on July 8, 2005 12:37 AM

Hell Acidbrain, just last week you were bashing the Brits after Misty said something to piss you off, now you are putting them on a pedestal. Which is it?

And you claim that this attack in London somehow vindicates Bush? Damn, you are fucked up. This latest terrorist attack happened because Blair supported Bush in Iraq. That is why the terrorists hit Spain last year, and why they killed the Egyptian diplomat in Iraq today as well. Bush's ignorant foreign policy is what keeps causing this shit. Terrorist attacks have INCREASED worldwide under Bush and so have the number of terrorists. Thanks to his insane concept that pre-emptively attacking Iraq would lead to a safer world from terrorism, we now can expect these kind of tragic events to continue to occur for decades to come. And if you really believe we are gonna kill all the terrorists in the world, you must be high.

Posted by: PJ on July 8, 2005 01:11 AM

The War on Abstraction (terrorism) is a miserable failure. If Gut were the thinker he imagines himself to be, he would start connecting the dots.

Think he will?

:-) The Official Gut Rumbles Troll (Rob said so!)

Posted by: jb on July 8, 2005 01:51 AM

And you claim that this attack in London somehow vindicates Bush? Damn, you are fucked up. This latest terrorist attack happened because Blair supported Bush in Iraq.

...Vindicates bush? Vindicates him from what? Killing these asshats? That requires no vindication.

Bush's ignorant foreign policy is what keeps causing this shit.

Not the people with the bombs. Can't blame them.

Terrorist attacks have INCREASED worldwide under Bush and so have the number of terrorists.

Cite your source.

Thanks to his insane concept that pre-emptively attacking Iraq would lead to a safer world from terrorism,

PRE IRAQ:
1993 WTC bombing
1995 Tokyo sarin attack
1995 Oklahoma city
1996 Khobar towers
1996 Atlanta Olympics incident
1998 US embassy bombing
2000 USS cole
2001 WTC attack
2001 Pentagon attack
2001 Anthrax attacks

Now make your POST Iraq list.

we now can expect these kind of tragic events to continue to occur for decades to come.

In other news, the sun will disappear for a few hours later this evening. because of haliburton.

And if you really believe we are gonna kill all the terrorists in the world, you must be high.

Not all, of course, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't giveit the old college try.

Posted by: Yogimus on July 8, 2005 05:06 AM

Rob - don't suppose you've got a spare gun I can borrow have you?

Posted by: Misty on July 8, 2005 06:24 AM

What people fail to realize is that these animals aren't looking to persuade people to their side. They don't give a shit who supports or defends them. They're after ONE thing: the complete and utter extermination of western society.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

Posted by: Chablis on July 8, 2005 07:51 AM

Goddamn bloody fucking right. And the fact the PJB twins are taking the opposite view only proves the point.

Posted by: McGehee on July 8, 2005 08:15 AM

A more comprehensive list than Yogimus', going back almost 40 years:

7/28/1968
A Marxist group called the People's Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) begins the first in a series of hijackings of Israeli El Al airliners. For this mission, the group exchanges 48 Israeli hostages for 16 Arab prisoners in Israeli jails.

2/21/1970
PFLP terrorists blow up a Swissair 330 in midair shortly after leaving Geneva, killing 47.

6/10/1970
Agents of the Palestine Liberation Organization murder U.S. Embassy attach頁rmy Major Robert P. Perry at home in Amman, Jordan.

9/6/1970
PFLP terrorists seize four airliners at the beginning of what would become known as "Black September." The hijackers demand the release of Palestinian prisoners in Germany, Switzerland, and Israel. They fly two planes to Dawson's Field in the Jordanian desert and blow up one in Cairo after releasing passengers and crew. On the fourth plane, the terrorists are overpowered and the plane returns to London. British authorities take Leila Khaled, who commanded the terrorist operation, into custody. The PFLP then demands Ms. Khaled's release and hijacks another plane bound for Beirut, landing a third plane at Dawson's Field. PFLP releases 255 hostages (retaining 56) and blow up the three planes. At the end of Black September, Great Britain releases Ms. Khaled and six other Palestinian guerrillas in exchange for the remaining hostages.

9/5/1972
At the Olympics in Munich, Germany, eight Black September terrorists take nine Israeli athletes hostage and kill two others. They demand the release of 200 Palestinians in Israeli jails, as well as freedom for terrorists of the Japanese Red Army and the Red Army Faction. A Black September grenade kills the athletes during an unsuccessful rescue attempt. Five terrorists die in a shootout and three are captured.

10/29/1972
Black September hijackers seize a Lufthansa flight from Beirut to Ankara, and gain the freedom of the three remaining Munich assailants.

3/1/1973
Black September terrorists take 10 hostages at the Saudi embassy in Khartoum, Sudan. The terrorists murder the U.S. ambassador and charge d'affaires, as well as a Belgian diplomat. They later surrender to authorities.

6/27/1976
The days of coffee talk come to an end after four terrorists-two from the Palestinian terrorist group PFLP and two from the Red Army Faction-hijack an Air France flight from Tel Aviv to Paris, capturing 240. After refueling in Libya, they fly to Entebbe, Uganda, where dictator Idi Amin welcomes them and allows them to land. The terrorists demand the release of 54 colleagues who are jailed in six countries around the world and a $5 million ransom for the PFLP. They release all passengers with non-Israeli passports, reducing the number of hostages to 103. On July 1, Israeli commandos raid the terminal building, killing all four terrorists and rescuing all but two hostages who die in the crossfire. The raid at Entebbe becomes a rallying point for the fight against terrorism.

3/9/1977
A dozen Hanafi Muslim terrorists armed with long knives, pistols, and sawed-off shotguns seize 134 hostages in three buildings only blocks from the White House. One man is killed and 12 are wounded in the takeover of the Islamic Center, the international headquarters of B'nai Brith, and the District building, Washington's city hall. They surrender two days later after negotiations with ambassadors of Egypt, Iran, and Pakistan.

2/14/1979
The U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan dies in a hail of gunfire from Afghan troops as others plot to rescue him from four kidnappers in a Kabul hotel room. Just as U.S. officials believed they had persuaded Afghan Interior Ministry officials not to storm the room, a gunshot was heard, spurring the spray of bullets.

6/20/1979
Serb nationalists hijack an American Airlines flight from New York to Chicago, seeking the release of a priest involved in a bombing of a Yugoslavian consular official's home in Chicago four years earlier. The hijackers fail and are taken into custody.

11/4/1979
In response to the Shah of Iran's admission to the United States for medical treatment and American refusals to extradite him, about 500 Iranians take over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. They hold 52 Americans as hostages. President Jimmy Carter applies economic pressure on Iran by halting Iranian oil imports and freezing Iranian assets in the United States. On April 24,1980, the Carter administration attempts a rescue mission that fails when three of the mission's eight helicopters are damaged in a sandstorm. After Ronald Reagan's election in November, successful negotiations begin and Iran releases the hostages shortly after President Reagan is inaugurated on January 20, 1981.

7/22/1980
Daoud Salahuddin (formerly David Belfield), an American Khomeini supporter, kills Ali Akbar Tabatabai, a press aide for Iran during the reign of Shah Reza Pahlavi and a strong critic of Ayatollah Khomeini's revolution, at his home in Bethesda, Md.

10/5/1980
Armenian terrorists claim responsibility for two bombings of Turkish interests in the United States, injuring one person near the Turkish consulate in Los Angeles.

5/13/1981
Turkish-born terrorist Mehmet Ali Agca shoots Pope John Paul II as he greets a crowd of thousands in St. Peter's Square. The pope survives and later visits with Mr. Agca for 20 minutes in a Rome prison to forgive him.

10/6/1981
Terrorists jump off a parade vehicle during an Egyptian parade, firing weapons and throwing grenades at the reviewing stand. They kill Egyptian President Anwar Sadat along with eight others and injure 20, including four American diplomats.

7/19/1982
David Dodge, the acting president of American University of Beirut, is kidnapped and held in Lebanon and then Iran. He is released a year later, and the Reagan administration gives credit to Syrian leader Hafez Assad, who told the Iranians that Mr. Dodge, as AUB president, had contributed to the culture of the Middle East.

8/21/1982
A bomb planted by Lebanese Marxists beneath the car of an American embassy employee in France explodes as technicians attempt to disarm it, killing one technician and injuring two.

4/18/1983
A man drives a van carrying 2,000 pounds of explosives into the front portion of the seven-story U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 63 (including 17 Americans) and injuring 120. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

10/23/1983
In the early morning at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, a truck loaded with compressed gas-enhanced explosives crashes through chain-link fences and barbed-wire entanglements. While guards open fire, the truck smashes through the doors of the four-story barracks and explodes, killing 241 U.S. servicemen as they sleep. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility. At almost the same time, a nearly identical suicide bombing attack kills 56 soldiers at the eight-story French military barracks in Beirut.

11/6/1983
A bomb explodes around 11 p.m. near the Senate chamber in the U.S. Capitol, blowing out the windows of the Republican cloakroom and throwing large chunks of plaster through the air. A group called the Armed Resistance Unit claims responsibility, saying it is protesting the invasion of Grenada and American involvement in Lebanon.

12/12/1983
Suicide terrorists ram a truckload of explosives into the American and French embassies in Kuwait. Five people, but no Americans, are killed at the U.S. embassy, since the driver hits a small administrative annex rather than the crowded chancellery building. The explosion at the French embassy blows a 30-foot hole in the wall around the compound, but kills no one. Analysts later blame the attacks on the banned Al-Dawa party, a radical Shiite group with ties to Iran.

1/18/1984
Malcolm H. Kerr, president of the American University of Beirut, is slain by two gunmen as he steps off an elevator near his office. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

6/14/1985
Lebanese gunmen hijack TWA flight 847 bound from Athens to Rome with 104 Americans and 49 other passengers and force it to fly to Beirut, where they pick up more gunmen, and then to Algiers. The hijackers release passengers until the number is down to 39. They demand the release of 766 Lebanese prisoners being held in Israel. On the second day of the standoff, the plane returns to Beirut, and the hijackers kill U.S. Navy diver Robert Stethem and throw his body out on the runway. Israel releases 31 Lebanese prisoners, but insists the release is not related to the standoff. After 17 days in captivity, the hostages are transported to Damascus, Syria, and released.

10/7/1985
Four heavily armed Palestinian terrorists from the Popular Liberation Front hijack the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro, carrying more than 400 passengers and crew, off Egypt. The terrorists demand that Israel release 50 Palestinian prisoners. They murder 69-year-old disabled American tourist Leon Klinghoffer and throw his body overboard with his wheelchair. After two days of tension, the hijackers surrender in exchange for a promise of safe passage. But when an Egyptian jet tries to fly them to freedom, U.S. Navy F-14 fighters intercept it and force it to land in Sicily, where Italian authorities take the terrorists into custody.

4/5/1986
An explosion rips through La Belle Disco in West Berlin, killing two American soldiers (and one other person) and injuring almost 230, including dozens of off-duty U.S. servicemen. President Reagan orders air strikes against Libya 10 days later as a "swift and effective retribution" for its role in the disco bombing.

4/14/1988
Japanese suicide bomber Junzo Okudaira drives a car bomb into a USO club in Naples, Italy, killing a U.S. Navy enlisted woman and four others. A Japanese Red Army front group claims responsibility. Two days earlier, JRA member Yu Kikumura was arrested at a New Jersey Turnpike rest area with three powerful bombs and other explosives. Both attacks were planned in retaliation on the second anniversary of the U.S. bombing of Libya.

12/21/1988
Pan Am Flight 103 from London to New York explodes over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing all 259 people on board (including 189 Americans) and 11 villagers on the ground. Crashing parts of the jet destroy 21 homes. In 1991 the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency charges two Libyan terrorists with the crime. On January 31, 2001, a former Libyan Arab Airlines official and suspected Libyan spy, Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi, is convicted of mass murder for his role in the bombing. The other defendant, Lamen Khalifa Fhimah, is found not guilty and receives a hero's welcome upon his return to Libya.

2/28/1989
Two Berkeley, Calif., bookstores are firebombed during the night to protest the sale of Iranian author Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses. Iranian authorities had issued a fatwa calling for Rushdie to be killed for disparaging Islam.

3/10/1989
A bomb explodes in a van driven by the wife of U. S. Navy Captain Will C. Rogers. She is unhurt. The attack is believed to be in retaliation for the July 1988 downing of an Iranian civil airliner by the USS Vincennes, commanded by Capt. Rogers.

1/25/1993
Mir Amal Kansi, a Pakistani living in the United States since 1991, shoots two CIA employees, Lansing Bennet and Frank Darling, and wounds three others near the gate of the CIA's 258-acre headquarters in Langley, Va.

2/26/1993
A minibus containing 1,100 pounds of explosives blows up in the garage beneath the World Trade Center complex. The blast kills six people, injures 1,000, and causes $300 million worth of damage. The towers are cleaned, repaired, and reopened in less than a month. Courts later convict six Middle Eastern men, including mastermind Ramzi Yousef. They claim to be retaliating against U.S. support for the Israeli government.

3/8/1995
A gunman kills two employees of the U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan-CIA communications technician Gary Durell and consulate secretary Jackie Van Landingham. No one claims responsibility, but analysts suggest it could be meant to cripple warming relations between the U.S. and Benazir Bhutto's government in Pakistan.

9/13/1995
A masked assailant fires a rocket-propelled grenade across a busy street during rush hour at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, destroying a copier and causing minor damage in a 6th-floor office in protest against American air strikes in Bosnia.

6/25/1996
Terrorists drive a tanker truck loaded with at least 5,000 pounds of plastic explosives into the parking lot of Khobar Towers in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, a housing facility for U.S. and allied forces enforcing a no-fly zone over the southern portion of Iraq. Nineteen Americans are killed and almost 500 wounded as the explosion drills a crater 35 feet deep and rips the front off an apartment building. The Justice Department announces indictments of 13 members of Hezbollah on June 12, 2001.

11/12/1997
In Karachi, Pakistan, two gunmen murder four American auditors for Union Texas Petroleum Company just 36 hours after a jury in Fairfax, Va., found Pakistani Mir Amil Kansi guilty of the two CIA headquarters murders. Kansi was captured a few months before, on June 17, in Pakistan.

8/7/1998
More than 300 people are killed and more than 5,000 injured in simultaneous car bombings of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. The explosion rips apart the back of the Kenyan embassy, which was located at an intersection and had no security fence in front, although it had an eight-foot-high steel fence on the other three sides. The Tanzanian blast occurred within the embassy walls, meaning the car had passed through a security check. Authorities suspect Osama bin Laden's network is responsible.

12/14/1999
Authorities arrest Algerian Ahmed Ressam as he tries to enter the United States from Canada at Port Angeles, Wash. They find more than 100 pounds of explosives in his car, foiling a plot to detonate a bomb at Los Angeles International Airport in the days before millennium celebrations on 1/1/2000. Three Algerians-Mr. Ressam, Abdel Ghani Meskini, and Mokhtar Haouari-are convicted in New York. Mr. Ressam testifies that he was trained at a camp in Afghanistan that American officials say is run by Osama bin Laden.

10/12/2000
In the port of Aden, Yemen, a pair of suicide bombers in a small boat pull alongside the U.S.S. Cole, an advanced Arleigh Burke-class destroyer carrying Aegis anti-missile weaponry. After taking a mooring line to a buoy to defuse suspicion, the bombers stand at attention as their small boat blows up, blasting a 40-foot-by-40-foot hole in the ship's hull, killing 17 American military personnel and injuring 39. U.S. officials suspect al-Qaeda, the network of Osama bin Laden, who speaks of the ship as having sailed "to its doom" along a course of "false arrogance, self-conceit, and strength."

9/11/2001
Hijackers take over two large jetliners, both en route from Boston to Los Angeles, and fly them into the north and south towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, collapsing both towers and killing 3,000 people in the buildings and on the ground. Minutes later another hijacked jet smashes into the west side of the Pentagon. A fourth hijacked plane crashes in a field near Shanksville, Pa. Bin Laden's network is implicated. President George W. Bush, in a speech to Congress, says his administration will make no distinction between terrorists like bin Laden and the states that support them. Four weeks later, the bombing of Afghanistan begins.

Posted by: Rob@L&R on July 8, 2005 08:19 AM

Thanks Rob. You know and I know and anyone with any brains can figure out that we have been at war with terrorists for a half century but there are still those who will not accept it. When the shooting really starts on the domestic front I wonder which side they will be on? I am one who figures that they will either lead or follow because if they try to get out of the way I am going to blow them away. I will no longer defend the right for anyone to try to take away my freedoms and liberty.

Posted by: GUYK on July 8, 2005 08:55 AM

All I can say is my guns are loaded. I have a good stockpile of ammo. Just let me catch some sand nigger looking to blow shit up down here. He won't have to worry about GITMO. Assrot will take care of him. Anybody that thinks we did something to cause the terrorists to attack the free world is a got-dam idiot and deserves to be dragged off and shot. I don't think the terrorist even have an agenda anymore. They just want to go around murdering innocent people and blowing shit up. We need to get off our asses and take over Iraq and Afghanistan instead of pussy-footing around like we been doing. We got the power. We just need politicians with the guts to get it done.

Posted by: assrot on July 8, 2005 09:20 AM

Thanks Rob for reminding us about the Blitz. It proves that the fight is won by the side that can take a punch. When we begin to ignore the handwringers then we can take a shot and counter with the Big right.

Posted by: Ivan Ivanovich on July 8, 2005 09:37 AM

DEPORT ALL ISLAMIC TRASH FROM AMERICA AND EUROPE..RINSE and REPEAT...

Posted by: Ruth on July 8, 2005 09:51 AM

Sometimes the cockraches wake you up and you have to turn on the light and stomp the ones you can see and then exterminate the fuckers you can't. I think alot of people will understand alot better now what Tony Blair ang GWB have from the beginning.

Posted by: gravdigr on July 8, 2005 10:00 AM

Misty, I don't own any guns. Whenever I talk about guns on my blog, it's ALL just a rich part of my fantasy life.

But I've HEARD that a Ladysmith S&W .38 special is a LOVELY weapon for a woman. I've ALSO read about how I could ship one to England by taking it apart and sending the pieces mixed up with something else.

Of course, I would never actually DO such a thing....

Posted by: Acidman on July 8, 2005 11:30 AM

Ah, OK, Understood ;)

I've just googled that model - looks interesting!

Don't suppose you want to email me if you find out any more info on them do you? I'm just curious is all :)

Posted by: Misty on July 8, 2005 12:58 PM

SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? (Neal Boortz)

Since we can't police every person in every city and every street and every bus, the solution to fighting terrorism is to take the fight to the enemy. Essentially we should keep doing what we're doing, but really take the gloves off. There needs to be a zero tolerance policy with regard to Islamic terrorism. For instance, take Iran. They're known to harbor Al-Qaeda terrorists and they're pursuing nuclear weapons. If we take positive action to stop them we'll catch hell from the peace-at-any-price cowards. If we don't we'll be looking at tens or hundreds of thousands of dead Americans one day in the future.

The other thing we need to do is stop the political correctness before it has the deadly consequences that London experienced yesterday. The TSA needs to stop searching little old ladies and start racially profiling people. No person of Middle Eastern descent should be allowed on any airplane until they are searched. Now why would we do a thing like that? Just about every terrorist that has attacked America in the last 20 years has been an Islamic terrorist. We need to stop playing games and start protecting ourselves from the real enemy, which are radical Muslims. Political correctness may feel good and assuage your sense of propriety, but it will end up getting people killed. If the Muslim world doesn't like getting singled out for extra security and scrutiny, then maybe the Muslim world will actually take some strong action to do something about the radicals in their midst.

The way to defeat Islamic terrorists is to give them what they want: death. This is the only consequence they understand, and they don't even fear that. Kill them all.

Posted by: Max on July 8, 2005 02:46 PM

SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? (Neal Boortz)

Since we can't police every person in every city and every street and every bus, the solution to fighting terrorism is to take the fight to the enemy.

-Max

Yeah, Neal Boortz is a real expert on terrorism Max. He is nothing but the Rush Limbaugh windbag of the South.

So, HOW IN THE FUCK is pre-emptively attacking a country that had no WMD's, no connections to the 9/11attacks or to Usama bin Laden taking the fight to the enemy? It makes no sense. Why didn't we just invade Mexico? It would have been easier. Oh that's right.....MEXICO DOESN'T HAVE THE SECOND LARGEST OIL RESERVE IN THE WORLD. Damn, folks, get your head out of your ass. Bush's motivation for invading Iraq was about OIL and for showing his daddy that he could take down Saddam and be the hero where daddy couldn't. But Bush didn't count on fucking it all up and costing thousands of innocent people their lives around the world as a result of his reckless decision. So then he switched to the argument of liberating the Iraqi people as a justification for attacking Iraq. When that subject grew tired, he then switched to spreading democracy throughout the Middle East for the justification of attacking Iraq because it was important for our future security. Where does it end?

The ENEMY that ATTACKED US is still bin Laden. He is in Afghanistan, or over the border in Pakistan, so what happened to the outrage for the one who actually attacked us on 9/11 and why isn't Bush still focusing on his promise to catch him "dead or alive"? Unfortunately, Bush has now made Iraq yet another haven for al Qaeda to train jihadists and spread their terror against not only our soldiers, but more innocent people around the globe as well.

PJ

Posted by: PJ on July 10, 2005 03:59 AM

"Minutes later another hijacked jet smashes into the west side of the Pentagon. A fourth hijacked plane crashes in a field near Shanksville, Pa. Bin Laden's network is implicated. President George W. Bush, in a speech to Congress, says his administration will make no distinction between terrorists like bin Laden and the states that support them. Four weeks later, the bombing of Afghanistan begins."

-Rob@L&R

Yeah Rob, and the whole world was behind that decision to go after bin Laden and al Qaeda in Afghanistan, but when it later became obvious that Bush was already predetermined to go after Saddam upon taking office, that is when the lies finally became clear. The fact that Bush committed only 17,500 U.S. troops to fighting the Taliban and catching bin Laden versus sending 150,000 troops to Iraq, shows where Bush's real priority was, and it was not on avenging the worst attack on U.S. soil. It was about securing the oil reserves in Iraq. It has already been proven by the 9/11 commission that Iraq never harbored al Qaeda or was a state sponsor of global terrorism.

PJ

Posted by: PJ on July 10, 2005 04:14 AM

"Terrorist attacks have INCREASED worldwide under Bush and so have the number of terrorists."

Cite your source.

-Yogimus

My source is not only the admission by the U.S. Government itself, but also a recent study by the Rand Corp. (employed by the U.S.) that shows the impact of the explosion of violence worldwide under Bush. The 5,362 deaths from terrorism worldwide between March 2004 and March 2005 were almost double the total for the same 12-month period before the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq.

PJ

Posted by: PJ on July 10, 2005 04:23 AM

Now how many of those 5000 deaths were within Iraq? You must also consider that 12 months is irrelevant for comparisons, especially when you get to pick and choose years.

If you are considering the situation in darfur as terrorism, (which it IS) 5000 is the totals for 1 month.

Posted by: Yogimus on July 10, 2005 10:55 AM

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